Episode #52

Carol Look Shows Us How Tapping is An Amazing Tool to Relieve Stress in The Body.

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Carol Look

Yuri: All right, guys, welcome. Yuri Elkaim here and we have another edition of the Super Nutrition Academy Health Class, as always, and today I’ve got a very special guest with me. Her name is Carol Look, and we’re actually going to be changing focus a little bit today, away from the nutrition stuff but still focusing on a really important aspect of health, which is stress.

I’m going to introduce Carol in a moment, but I’ll just give you a brief background to let you know who she is and why you should listen to what she has to say. What you’re going to discover today is pretty awesome. Carol Look is an EFT master. EFT, what is that? Well, it’s basically emotional freedom technique. She’s been a pioneer in this whole industry for more than seventeen years.

Before that, she was trained as a clinical social worker and earned her doctoral degree in clinical hypnotherapy. She’s known for combining her distinguished background in traditional psychotherapy with energy medicine for unprecedented innovations in the applications of EFT. She is recognized worldwide as one of the leaders in this entire field.

She’s a highly sought-after international speaker and workshop leader. She’s authored a number of books, including Attracting Abundance with EFT, Improve Your Eyesight with EFT, and the number one best-selling Amazon Kindle book, Stop Feeling Lazy: How to Break the Procrastination Cycle Once and for All. She’s done so much more.

Obviously, I could go on and on, but without any further ado, I will introduce her. Carol, welcome to the SNA Health Class.

Carol: Hi, Yuri, it’s a pleasure to be talking with you.

Yuri: Yeah, absolutely. Just to give our listeners a little bit of a background, we met at a mastermind that was a couple weeks ago back in New York, as of this recording, for our good friends Alex and Nick Ortner from the Tapping Solution. It was really great to connect with you, as well as a lot of other people in kind of this energy-healing space because I’m a big proponent of energy, and I’ve always told people, sometimes what you can’t see is more powerful than what you can see.

I think the stuff that you’re doing is awesome, and what we talk about today really revolves around stress, because I think everyone can raise their hand and say, “You know what, I’m probably more stressed out than is healthy for me,” and it’s not about being on medications. Obviously, it’d be nice to meditate all day long and do all sorts of retreats, but not everyone has the luxury to do that.

Obviously, as you know, tapping and EFT is a great solution for a lot of that stuff. Why don’t we start off by just giving a quick background of what EFT is for the person who’s never heard of this before?

Carol: Sure. I want to give just my interpretation of the stress background too, because that’s how I sometimes get my clients to tap, to use EFT. Stress is simply our interpretation of the external environment demanding something from us. We feel stressed out when our boss changes the timetable and gives us a new deadline. We feel stressed out when the kids come down with a cold and they have to stay home from school. It’s something outside of us feels like it’s pulling on us, and it affects every part of our life.

A nutritional program is fantastic, but when you’re really stressed out, it’s actually harder to follow it. I treat people from all walks of life, every kind of business possible from the coaching and practitioners in EFT tapping to businessmen on Wall Street who are anxious. Everything. I’ve never met a human being who couldn’t improve their life and their outlook from doing something to reduce their stress.

That’s sometimes how I encourage people just to use a simple tool like tapping. The EFT—sorry, did you want to say something about that?

Yuri: No, please go on.

Tapping

Carol: So, tapping—EFT is the formal name, emotional freedom technique—and it’s actually been around for about thirty years. Psychologists in California figured out how to combine tapping with the acupuncture system in the ’80s to help people with anxiety and phobias, and then it turned into a treatment for everything from pain relief to cravings, to stress.

What we’re doing is really marrying the traditions and the theories from ancient Chinese medicine with medicine psychology. We don’t use needles; we are very, very simply using our fingertips to tap on specific points on the meridians.

The meridians are the circuits, the pathways that Chinese medicine doctors believe carry chi or energy or electricity through our body. Everybody has them. Everybody has energy, electricity. If you get hooked up to an EKG or an ECG, they measure electrical output.

So, we all have the energy in our bodies; the problem is, we don’t measure it that well. Whether it’s from a stressful life, whether it’s from poor eating habits, whether it’s from staying up too late watching TV or being on the Internet or stressors that happen in your life, we end up not managing our energy very well and it gets congested.

If you’ve gone to an acupuncturist, they will talk about congestion in your energy, and this very simple tapping procedure ends up clearing out the congestion in these meridians, in these circuits. They’ve done some recent studies about how it seems to trigger certain chemicals to help reduce your stress, how it seems to calm down the amygdala, which is the part of the brain that reacts very instantaneously to stress.

The amygdala’s like your smoke alarm, so if anything looks, sounds, or feels upsetting in your environment, your amygdala goes woooo-ooo! You know, a big alarm goes off and starts to trigger this cascade of cortisol. You know so much about that, Yuri, yourself. Anyway, the tapping ends up counteracting the stress, calming you down and helping you handle situations that life throws us.

I’ve been in practice for twenty years, and I tell my clients life isn’t going to get less stressful. We have life events. One client comes in and their parents are elderly. The next client comes in, and they’re about to have a baby. The next client comes in and there’s a divorce.

Life happens and it’s about our managing it. When we can use a tool as simple as this tapping tool to help move the energy, I have just seen miracles in my life, but miracles in my clients’ lives. I say to people, “I’ve been doing the tapping for seventeen years. If I find something better, I’ll let you know, but it’s still working and it’s still working well.”

Yuri: So, before we go any further, people are like, “Okay, well, this tapping thing sounds awesome. What exactly do I tap?” Obviously it’s a bit tough to describe over audio, but can you give a quick rundown of the different tapping points and how people can kind of get those into play?

Carol: Sure. The best thing is to aim the tapping at a particular target. Let’s say we were choosing stress as our target, and, Yuri, you were saying to me, “Things are going pretty well, but this one deadline makes me feel very stressful,” or, “This thing didn’t go well with audio or video or something, and I feel kind of stressed out about it.”

Then I would say, “Where in your body do you feel the stress?” and you’d come up with that. And I’d say, “Okay, measure it zero to ten,” and you’d say, “Well, it’s only about a seven right now,” ten being the worst, and then we have a target. Somebody else might say they have stress in their life about something else.

The first thing you do: Come up with this target and then we start tapping on the points. The first point we tap is called—I do a lot of radio interviews, so I actually am well-versed in describing it over audio instead of video—the first spot is called the karate-chop point.

If you’ve ever seen a karate master on television chop a block in half, that place on his hand, that is called your karate-chop point. You have one on your left hand and your right hand.

The first step is called the setup statement. Basically, you name the problem; you name the target you’ve chosen. In our case for today, we’ve chosen “I feel stressed out”; that’s our target.

The best targets are feelings. I feel stressed out; I feel resentful; I feel hurt; I feel exhausted. Exhausted isn’t an emotion, but it’s a good feeling we have.

So, the first thing you do is combine, while we’re tapping on the karate-chop point, you combine the problem—“Even though I feel stressed out”—and then you combine it with an affirmation or a statement that basically says, “I’m okay and I’m going to stop fighting myself.” It’s a hugely important piece of tapping to really acknowledge what’s going on and reduce the resistance.

We would tap on the karate-chop point. Everybody could even play with that right now, see what it feels like to you. I’m right-handed, Yuri, so I take the fingers of my right hand and tap on the karate-chop point that’s on my left hand because it’s just easier.

Most of the points are located on both sides of the body. They’ve done some of these studies about the acupuncture points and what happens that the whole system lights up when you access one of these points. So, I tap with my right-hand fingers on the left hand, and we would say this statement.

We can shift the words around, but the basic protocol that’s been going on for thirty years is, “Even though I have this fill-in-the blank, even though I have this stress, I deeply and completely accept myself anyway.” Or, “I’m okay and I’m doing the best I can.” Or, “Even though I have this stress, at least I’m doing something to help myself.”

You can see that it’s anything that takes the edge off, anything that says, “You know what, folks? I’m doing the best I can.” Now, some people don’t like the words, “I deeply and completely love myself,” they don’t like using the word love.

Some people will say, “Even though I’m totally stressed out at work, I accept who I am anyway. I accept how I feel.” It’s really, the essence of it is to be accepting of yourself, because you know what we do, Yuri, is we’re always fighting ourselves.

We’re always saying, “I shouldn’t. Shouldn’t eat that. Shouldn’t do that. Should’ve gone out and exercised. Should’ve finished the project.” This is the way to say, “I am who I am and where I am, and at least I’m working on it.”

The setup statement is that. And we do it two or three times. Some people say that sounds so corny, so funny, but you know what? It really works quite powerfully. Some people say they feel the difference as energy starts to move. They start to feel the difference even at this first place.

We tap on the karate-chop point and we would say, “Even though I feel this stress, I deeply and completely accept myself anyway,” maybe two or three times. And then that’s called the setup, and it basically sets up your energy system to start moving, to start clearing whatever the problem is that you’ve chosen as your target.

Then the point—and I’ll go through those very quickly. The next series of points that we tap on, while we’re tapping on them, what we do is we just name the problem so that our energy system is really tuned in to what we want to work on.

I say to people it’s a little bit like working on a computer. You’ve gotta call up your Word document in order to edit it, right? Here we are calling up this document called “I’m So Stressed Out,” and then we edit it with the tapping.

The first point is called the eyebrow point. It’s above your nose at the beginning of either one of your eyebrows. And we just tap very lightly, just tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap just very lightly.

We’re just making contact with these acupuncture points, and while we’re doing that, we name the problem so the file is up and running so to speak. I’d be tapping on my eyebrow point and saying, “I feel so stressed out.”

And then the next point is called the outside of your eye. It’s that little bony corner of either your left eye or your right eye. Don’t go all the way back to your hairline or your temples; just tap right on the corner there really lightly. I tap with two fingers, just tap like that while you’re focused on the problem, because this helps alleviate the problem.

Some people say, “I don’t want to focus on the problem.” Well, you’re in it; your entire energy system is thinking about the problem, so, yes, we actually do want to focus on it so that we can relieve it. Does that make sense?

Yuri: I was just going to say that’s what I really enjoy about EFT and tapping. You’re not masking a problem; you’re actually confronting it. You’re being honest with yourself about how you feel, and you’re kind of verbalizing all that, so I think it’s a really great part of the process.

EFT

Carol: Which has a tremendous healing effect also, right? It’s like people coming to you and saying, “Oh, for God’s sake, I can’t get my diet together. I don’t know what to do. Help me. I’ve really messed up; I keep falling off the wagon.” They’re honest; they’re going to get some help that way.

The first point: eyebrow point, left or right, whichever you prefer. The next point: outside of the eye, that little bony corner. The next point is right under the eye. It’s not your cheekbone; it’s right at the top of that, sort of the little socket on the top of the bone where your eye sits.

You’re right under your eye. And we’re just tapping again; tap, tap, tap, tap, tap. The next point is under your nose. Very important acupuncture point. It’s on your upper lip, right under your nose. These next two are the only ones that don’t have bilateral on your face.

The next point is called the chin point, and it’s right above your chin and below your lower lip. You can probably hear it; I’m doing something with my face. It’s right in the crease there; you just tap there.

And then next point is called your collarbone point. You can spend a lot of time trying to figure out where that is. It’s right below those funny, little knobs, below your collarbone. To make it easy, just put your palm in an outstretched position and just tap where the knot of a man’s tie would fall. Just tap like that and I know you’re covering both of them.

All these points we’re tapping are on the meridian system, this electrical circuitry system, and they correspond with very important acupuncture points that a traditional Chinese medicine doctor would put needles in if you went to them for stress relief or pain control or cravings or anything else.

The next point is under the arm—again, you could go left side, right side—about four inches below your armpit, right in your ribs. Sometimes I say to people, “Picture you have a seam splitting your body right in half. It’ll be right on the seam there, in your ribs.”

And then we end on the top of the head; nice, really important acupuncture point there. You just tap around in a little circle up on the top of your head. And that would be one very simple round.

We start with the karate chop and we say the problem. “Even though I have this problem, I’m okay about it. Even though I have this problem, I accept myself.” Then we tap on the points, and we basically say this problem, this problem, this problem. We go eyebrow, side of eye, under eye, under nose, chin, collarbone, underarm, top of the head.

It’s very easy physically to follow because you’re going down the face and body and just ending on the top of the head. That’s the most simple version, mechanical version of doing the tapping, is to follow along while you’re focusing on something that’s really stressing you out.

Yuri: That’s awesome. We have the problem. “I’m stressed out because I’m sitting in traffic,” or, “I’m stressed out because I just got fired from my job,” or whatever it might be.

So, we go through those different tapping points. You talked about kind of editing your document. Is there a point at which you transition from “here’s the problem” to “here’s what I would like to create” or “here’s what I’d like to feel”?

Carol: Yes, you can. Now, one of the things that’s important is—remember, when I said measure how bad your stress feels? It would be against your stress. It wouldn’t be somebody else might think it’s this or somebody else might think it’s that.

Let’s say you say, “My stress, ugh. Now it’s about a six. I’ve just got too much on my plate to do. I don’t know how I’m going to do it. I can feel it in my body,” and you’re a six or seven let’s say.

You do all the tapping, take a deep breath, and at the end, you go, “Let me check it again.” So, you think about the projects that are stressing you out. Nothing’s changed about the projects, but when you tune in with your body and mind, nine times out of ten, the energy of tension and stress has dropped.

You might say, “Well, that’s weird. I’m a four now. I still feel it but I’m only a four.” And then we would do tap-tap-tap again.

“Even though I still have some of the stress, I accept myself anyway.” Tap. “I have remaining stress. I’m still worried about the projects.” Remaining stress. As you tap on the points, breathe again.

Let’s say you’re down to a three. And when you’re down low enough, when you’ve really, honestly addressed the stress or the real problem in your life, when you’ve really, honestly addressed it, then you have some room to put in something positive.

The first twenty years of tapping, Yuri, no one used a positive installation like, “Let’s have suggestions or what would we like to create?” No one did that because you didn’t really need to. Once you got the problem down low enough, it was quite natural for you to be more resourceful and more creative and think, Hey, I know how I could solve that problem. I know how I could stay on that energy diet, or something like that.

The argument in the field, which I think is important, I think your people would totally understand it, is that some people are skipping, talking about the issue that’s bothering them and trying to go right to creating something positive, and it doesn’t land because the truth is, you’re upset. When you’re trying to force the affirmation “I’m happy and free and isn’t everything great,” it doesn’t have anyplace to go!

Yuri: Yeah, your mind is saying BS.

Carol: Yes, your mind is saying a tale-ender. “Oh, sure, you’re really happy. Sure, Carol.”

I teach a whole lot of practitioners and coaches. I always say, “Do a couple of rounds addressing the truth of the problem. Hit it head-on. Validate yourself.” We all need validation. Any human being needs to be validated, and that’s what we’re doing.

Then we’re tapping on the stress-relief points. And then, when the number’s low enough, you might say, you might go around again and say, “I choose to come up with a creative solution. I know that I can handle this. I feel better already.”

You could start saying either a variety or the same statement as you go through the points again. Because I’ve been doing the tapping for so long, it ends up being kind of intuitive.

I did a workshop recently, and when I was sitting with this client, I just could tell that it was not time to do positive anything. She was not going to accept it, so I never did it. I never transitioned to the, “Hmm, maybe it wasn’t my fault. Maybe I am okay. I didn’t transition to that because I could just feel it, and, again, that comes with just years of experience with it.” No harm will be done, and if you do it after a couple of rounds, what harm could be done if you do it right away is just you end up being kind of obstinate.

If you’re not doing well and someone says, “Yuri, don’t worry about it. You’re fantastic. You’re so successful. Why would you be upset?” it ends up making us kind of, we want to fight back, and you don’t want to trigger that kind of resistance in your energy system that says, “Oh yeah? Watch me. You don’t think I sabotage? Watch me.”

We don’t want to trigger that in ourselves or in our clients who come to us. Great question, so thank you for bringing that up. But, again, the first twenty years no one did it; no one felt the need to.

Yuri: Interesting. I’ve been doing tapping probably not as much as I should, because I find that when I do it, I notice immediately that there’s a reduction in stress, and I feel most of my stress in my stomach, in the gut area, so I can feel pretty quickly there’s an alleviation as soon as I start doing this.

I just forgot what I was about to say, but I’ll get back to that eventually. What are two or three really out-there cases of people coming through with problems that you’ve been able to help with tapping?

Carol: My main work is attracting abundance for people, and what’s under that, of course, is every limiting belief you can think. I’m not good enough. I hate myself. Those are extreme cases.

Usually, someone comes in and they have such self-hatred that they’re not here for success. They can’t get over that, they think they’re terrible, they were told “You’ll never amount to anything,” so it ends up being pretty clear therapeutic work on self-esteem, and those are just amazing cases. I just love those cases.

With stress, to keep on that topic, one of things that happens is, people get to a breaking point. You feel it in your gut and stomach; I feel it in my shoulders and my back and my neck. That’s my place. Now, years later, I know it. I know when to stop, get up, walk around, stop being at the computer and do something helpful and tap or do something else.

But I get people who come in and say to me, “Yeah, I’m pretty stressed out,” but I’m looking at them and I’m seeing a ten. They’re like, “Yeah, I’m okay,” because they have learned how to tolerate unbelievably unhealthy amounts of stress.

What starts to happen is I start to talk to them and listen to them, they start to break down because they’re, for the first time, acknowledging it and saying to a counselor, “I’m on the edge here. I yelled at my wife and I kicked the water bowl for the dog and I was angry and I slammed the door and I did this and I mumbled to my boss and he was mad.”

What happens to human beings—and it happens to all of us—is we get to a breaking point where the proverbial, you break your shoelace and it’s like, “Why?!” you burst out with some temper. What I love, the extreme cases for that is someone who comes in and says, “Yeah, I’m about a five,” and it turns out, of course, they’re a ten-plus.

And I help them in one short session and then teach them how to do that so they don’t have to come back to me every week, but they can take this self-help tool home with them. I get them the physiological tension from stress down, the agitated, emotional level of stress way down so that their situation hasn’t changed.

The kids are still screaming at home; something’s still going on in their marriage; the workload is still too much; the parents are still going into the hospital or something, you know, when someone’s totally overloaded. But they walk out being able to breathe deeply and saying, “I can handle this.”

I worked with this guy recently in a workshop whose business, he knew his business—and the employees, all his family—was going under, and he’s got twenty employees. He said, “I’m on the brink. I’m on the brink of losing it.”

We just did a very little bit of tapping, and he said, “Yes, it’s still going to happen. I can’t prevent that but now I think I can handle the employees. I’m going to have to let them go. I can handle my children and my wife and my brother, who’s employed, and I can handle…”

He was just a totally different person from the tapping. He was no longer operating—you know when you’re stressed out you kind of operate in that top part of your head and you just know it’s not your most resourceful place. It’s like your left brain trying to fix everything.

The situation doesn’t change, but your reaction to it, your interpretation, your feeling of being put upon and victimized and “I can’t handle it,” those are the things that make us snap. And, again, whether you snap at your boss, your spouse, your kids, or the dog, it doesn’t matter. We then don’t like ourselves afterward. We’re not good at handling things; we’re not resourceful.

He was a good example just of someone so recently where he really was on the edge and had some serious health problems because he’s always at work and not taking care of himself. So, this whole bundle walks into my office, right, and says, “Here’s the problem.” I gave him a tool, and he e-mailed me afterward and says, “I’m tapping every day. Every day. And yes, the company’s going under and I’m doing great.” It was like a different human being.

Yuri: That’s awesome. What’s so amazing about tapping is that it’s a very simple tool that you don’t need any special equipment for. As long as you have a couple fingers, that’s pretty much all you need. And you can do it anywhere; on the toilet, in bed, standing up, whatever.

It’s such a great resource. I’m all about empowering people, like teaching them how to fish as opposed to giving them the fish, and I think this is a great tool to help individuals really manage their lives and manage their stress better, because as you said, it’s not the event; it’s how we interpret the event. The meaning we give something, which is really how it affects us.

One of the things that I found really interesting was, I heard somebody say this a while ago. They said, “Human beings will do anything to alleviate their anxiety.” Actually, it was Mad Men I think. I was like, that’s a great line.

It was a cardiologist who said this. “Human beings will do anything to alleviate their anxiety.” I was like, that is so true, because if you think about smoking, drinking, binge eating, craving certain foods, whatever kind of addictions we have, if you really—I think if more of us really got honest with the problem, we would be able to avoid a lot of those quick fixes.

We’re stressed out, we’re depressed, we turn to carbs because that makes us feel good in the moment, and if we had a resource like tapping that could do the same thing but in a more productive way, I think it would be a great tool—and it is a great tool—for anyone to use.

That’s why I really wanted to bring you on to this episode to discuss this, because I think it’s such a powerful and simple tool for anybody to use. Just kind of bringing this back to the nutrition side of things, people are dealing with stress, and that directly impacts a lot of their food choices.
So, yeah, I just wanted to thank you for sharing a lot of that. That’s great stuff.

Carol: You know, Yuri, the first thing I worked on, this was years ago, I’m working on my clients and I’m all enthusiastic and I’m saying, “Hey, I have this new stress-relief technique, and if you want to try it, we’ll do it at the end of the session.” And what happened is, after tapping with people on their anxiety and stress, and people were coming to me—I was a hypnotist, so people came to me for smoking and weight; that’s all they came to me for at that time in that part of my practice.

And what happened to me is, I got rid of my long-term insomnia, which was anxiety-driven. I didn’t work on my insomnia; what I was doing was tapping with my clients on their anxiety. I woke up on day and said, “Well, that’s weird. I think I went to sleep last night.”

So, seventeen years now I’ve been sleeping. So, can you imagine what it’s done to my health and to my stress levels? That was the first thing I did. Now, I do it with cravings all the time for people.

I smoked as a teenager, and as a result, when I’m stressed out, it is so weird, I get smoking cravings again. It’s very, very strange. I quit years ago, years ago, and I still get those cravings because I think of how the learning happened. I think it’s because I was fifteen. When I’m stressed out I get the cravings and I want to smoke.

Other people, the first thing they want is a drink. That’s not my thing, right? When we can use this tool, as you were saying, instead of reaching for the easy, easy carb, the easy quick fix, because food works. Food works temporarily and then we’re mad at ourselves and upset and we feel gross and we’re bloated and we don’t feel healthy and we don’t get up the next morning to work out.

It works temporarily: drugs, alcohol, food, drama. I deal with a lot of clients who are into drama, you know, old relationships and what have you. So, as a tool, you can use this anytime. I’ve got people doing it on the subway in New York City, because if they’re phobic, if they have any fears of being in enclosed spaces or fear of people and all of that, I’ve got them doing it in their mind actually.

You can do it as a creative visualization. But I say to people, “Why don’t you tap a couple times a day in the privacy of your own home, when you’re doing okay? Just focus on something that bothers you and do the tapping.”

Because what happens is if you want until you’re really stressed out to tap, sometimes you’re distracted, sometimes the house of cards has fallen and it’s just you don’t feel like tapping. I always tease my weight-loss clients and I say, “Don’t wait until you’re in the car to Dunkin’ Donuts to tap. You won’t do it because the craving has taken hold.”

And I worked at an agency with addiction, so I know a lot about alcoholism. The same thing. Don’t wait until you are about to call someone for a drink. It’s not, you’re not going to do it. It’s not that it wouldn’t work; it’s that you’re not going to stop and do it because you’re on a roll.

Yuri: Yeah, you can’t put the toothpaste back in the tube.

Carol: You got that right. So, I say to people, do it five minutes, ten minutes in the morning, before you go to work, five minutes, ten minutes at the end of the day, and see how you start to watch your overall capacity to handle your life start to improve. That’s what I found.

See, I was all gung-ho, but I was also really skeptical. I was a traditionally trained psychotherapist and a hypnotist, and, believe it or not, I was skeptical. All I had to do was keep doing it on people and hear their reports and then have the dramatic effect happen on me.

And, of course, I’ve worked on a zillion of my own problems since then. And then it won me over because it just kept working. It won me over because I felt better.

I’m now sleeping; a long-term health issue went away; I’ve helped myself with cravings, not just cigarettes but, of course, food. And it just makes me happy. It is such an easy tool, portable, easy, right?

If you want, Yuri, you could be my echo, and we could actually do a real round on stress. If you think that would be helpful, if we had time and you thought it would be helpful, I could actually have you be my echo.

Yuri: Yeah, let’s do that. I think that’d be a great way to finish off the episode. It would kind of give some kind of tangible—not that we haven’t talked about tangible stuff, but it’d be a cool example to use. Sure.

Carol: Good, all right. Now, you can either choose a real issue that you’re going through right now, or we’ll go back and use stress as the template but have everyone tap along with us, and they would hear the cadence and kind of get the rhythm of it. Do you have a preference? We could just do stress again.

Yuri: Yeah, let’s use an example of my own life. This morning I lost my temper on my two-and-a-half-year-old son. It has nothing to do with him; it has everything to kind of do with stuff that’s going on with me. So, let’s use that as an example. Maybe the fact that I’m not happy that I lost my cool on Oscar.

Carol: Okay, all right. So, not happy about it. Measure, sometimes we try to get the target as clear as possible. “I feel guilty about it.” Say that out loud: “I feel guilty I lost my temper.”

Yuri: I feel guilty I lost my temper.

Carol: Zero to ten, how high?

Yuri: Probably a seven and I can feel that actually, I feel this emotion in my head. I feel my head kind of warming up.

Carol: Okay. Is there anything that you think is actually more poignant for you, more direct? Like, now I feel stressed out that I did it. Is there anything else, a sentence that would really speak to—this is where people, Yuri, get confused.

They say, “Yes, but what do you say?” You say the truth. It’s not my wording that’s important; it’s actually what would really speak to you about what you’re doing through as a result of what happened.

Yuri: Yeah, I guess I would say I feel bad for yelling at Oscar.

Carol: Okay, all right. So, a seven. You’d measure a seven, zero to ten?

Yuri: Yep, yeah.

Carol: Okay. So then we would do the same setup. We tap on the karate-chop point. And everybody, you may not have this issue, it didn’t happen to you this morning. I would like you to tap along with us so you really get the feeling and the cadence and feel what it feels like to do a real tapping round. So then, Yuri—

Yuri: Just a little caution here. If you’re driving in your car, just pull over to the side while you’re doing this.

Carol: Yes, please. Okay.

Yuri: All right, continue.

Carol: So, karate-chop point. Just repeat after me. Even though I feel bad that I yelled at Oscar this morning…

Yuri: Even though I feel bad that I yelled at Oscar this morning…

Carol: …I accept who I am and how I feel.

Yuri: …I accept who I am and how I feel.

Carol: Even though I feel bad that I lost my temper this morning…

Yuri: Even though I feel bad that I lost my temper this morning…

Carol: Now, everyone, we’re still tapping on the karate-chop point. I accept who I am and that I’m trying.

Yuri: I accept who I am and that I’m trying.

Carol: Even though I feel guilty because it wasn’t about him…

Yuri: Even though I feel guilty because it wasn’t about him…

Carol: …I deeply and completely accept who I am.

Yuri: … I deeply and completely accept who I am.

Carol: Good. Now we’re going to go to the first point, the eyebrow point, and we’re just going to name the problem. So, tap on your eyebrow point, either side, and say, “I feel bad that I yelled at Oscar.”

Yuri: I feel bad that I yelled at Oscar.

Carol: Side of the eye. I didn’t mean to do it.

Yuri: I didn’t mean to it.

Carol: Under the eye. The poor guy; it wasn’t about him.

Yuri: The poor guy; it wasn’t about him.

Carol: Under the nose. I feel guilty that I yelled at him.

Yuri: I feel guilty that I yelled at him.

Carol: Chin point. But it’s good information, because it told me how stressed out I was.

Yuri: But it’s good information, because it told me how stressed out I was.

Carol: Collarbone. I feel bad that I yelled at him.

Yuri: I feel bad that I yelled at him.

Carol: Under the arm. And I’m trying to accept myself anyway.

Yuri: And I’m trying to accept myself anyway.

Carol: Top of the head. I feel bad that I yelled at him, but I’m doing the best that I can.

Yuri: I feel bad that I yelled at him, but I’m doing the best that I can.

Carol: Eyebrow. I want to forgive myself.

Yuri: I want to forgive myself.

Carol: Side of the eye. It tells me good information about me.

Yuri: It tells me good information about me.

Carol: Under the eye. And I can keep feeling guilty about it…

Yuri: And I can keep feeling guilty about it…

Carol: Under the nose. …or I could forgive myself.

Yuri: …or I can forgive myself.

Carol: Chin. …and I can learn from it.

Yuri: …and I can learn from it.

Carol: Collarbone. I have learned from it.

Yuri: I have learned from it.

Carol: Under the arm. And I appreciate that I can look at this situation…

Yuri: And I appreciate that I can look at this situation…

Carol: Top of the head. …and take something positive away from it.

Yuri: …and take something positive away from it.

Carol: Good. Take a breath. So there, the first round. I didn’t stop and go back to the karate-chop point; I just kept going around again at the eyebrow. The first round, we were all about the problem.

I didn’t want to interrupt and check your number. I just decided because of how I know you that we could keep going and do a little bit more of the positive “forgive myself” and move on from there. So, then what we do is go back and say, okay, you were a seven on the zero-to-ten-point scale, which means you’re carrying around a seven all day because of what happened this morning, which then stresses us out.

So, you were a seven. Now think about it again, the guilt, this I feel bad that I yelled at Oscar. How does that feel to you now?

Yuri: It’s probably about a two.

Carol: A two. Huge drop. Everyone listening? Not everyone drops from a seven to a two right away. Some people go to a zero. But even if you’re inching down seven, five, three…that’s fabulous because, energetically—you started, Yuri, talking about energy—energetically, if your vibration is from a seven to a two, you’re going to be different at lunch today.

Your vibration is different; how you’re going to handle the next interaction with him is different. Learning about your stress levels and why you flew off the handle when it wasn’t about him, we need to learn that stuff.

That’s brilliant feedback for us. Our behavior is feedback for us. To go from a seven to a two, that’s enormous in two minutes.

Yuri: Yeah. That’s the power of this whole exercise, which is awesome. That’s why I chant; it’s just so great.

Yeah, well, thank you so much for taking me through that and taking our listeners through that as well. I encourage everyone listening to take this process and find that area in your life where it would be most applicable because it is awesome.

Carol: Yuri, I just want to tell them so they could use it on stress, they could use it on insomnia, they could use it on cravings. If they’re having trouble following a nutritional program and sticking to it because they’re having cravings from stress, attack your cravings. “Even though I have this really strong craving.”

So, the target is just an emotion or a symptom or even a belief. “Oh, this’ll never happen for me.” That could also be a target.

It has incredible movement of where we can go with it, so I just encourage people to do it as much as they can but at the very least, twice a day for five minutes. If you could fit that in to your schedule, you will notice an improvement in your vibration and your feeling about life right away.

Yuri: Yeah, and it’s actually, I’m pretty body-aware, so as we just finished that, I can feel my body tingling. Not in a convulsive way, but I can just feel there’s a better flow in my energy. I can just feel that automatically. And some people might not be able to feel that, and some people might be able to feel that more. That’s just something that I was able to notice well after we finished that. It’s really, really awesome.

Carol: And some people just say, “Oh, I feel more relaxed,” and other people say, “I don’t feel anything, but I feel better emotionally.” Lots of variety.

Yuri: Yeah, totally. So, for people to learn more about what you do, AttractingAbundance.com is the best place to follow your stuff?

Carol: Yes, thank you.

Yuri: Okay. Again, AttractingAbundance.com is Carol’s Web site. You can learn about her, everything she’s doing. Again, guys, I highly recommend checking out what Carol’s up to; at the very minimum, at least learn more about tapping. I think just within this interview, you kind of have a good basis to work from.

I just want to thank you very much for taking the time to share your wisdom and expertise with us and our listeners. It’s definitely a tool that could change a lot of people’s lives.

Carol: Yuri, it was a pleasure. Thank you for having me speak with you and them.

Yuri: Absolutely. So, thank you once again, Carol. Again, I really appreciate you taking the time and sharing this with everyone. And for everyone listening, remember: The key to all of this is taking action on what you’ve heard and what you’ve learned, so please take a couple minutes out of your day—obviously not while you’re driving—to tap on something that you feel could use a bit of resolution.

Once again, thank you so much, Carol. Thank you to everyone for joining us again, and I look forward to seeing you guys in the next episode.